Hot News -
- Up to the second coverage of
90x90 "Dogzilla" (this launch was a real Web 2.0 technology
event - real time real news for those who want it)
- Get over to BMWO's website and look at that
boat!
- You couldn't make this up!!
- Appeal Court overturns Cahn
- CNEV is CoR
- Challenge in at least 10 months
- see it here
- Detail @ VS
- It is not April 01
- This could mean a "proper" AC in 2009 (or 10 or 11)
- Mariantic is up and taking notice...
- Mariantic is taking a break. Thanks
for your support. More later
- No instant decision from Cahn's court
- Excellent (even heroic) open letter from Vincenzo
Honorato - ML
- I don't have the heart to report Alinghi's
latest missive - if you want it you'll find it, they are
spraying their press releases everywhere.
- Alinghi start training in ORMA 60 Foncia - website
- BMWO will be on board Groupama 2 - cupineurope
- At last, a meeting - email (we
hear it's 1100 Wednesday in Geneva)
- "Dear Russell..." letter from Fred
Mayer - here
- "Dear Brad..." letter from Russell
(by Tom) - here
- Thanks Mark for
a balanced, and beautifully written, view - glad you can keep
up your enthusiasm
- Alinghi threaten to go back to court if July
2009 not accepted - letter to
GGYC
- BMWO say it's October 2008 - the times
- We think - if it goes back to Justice Cahn
he will say 4 July 2008!
- Cory Part 18 @ Scuttlebutt quotes
Alinghi will forfeit if it's October
- Apparently BMWO have already offerd October
2008 - Guardian
- "They can have the regatta in July 4
but it will be ridiculous, we won't be ready," Brad NZH
- we
say- it really could be a walk over...
- 2008? "no way" says Butterworth - NZH
- 2008 for sure say ORACLE - see Kimball
- 2008 or 2009 - that's the next Big Issue
- "Settle it on the water" say Alinghi -
but they get the year wrong!
- Motion decision - full document- here
- ORACLE wins - sailworld / bloomberg
- SNG motion to renew/reargue denied...
- DoG match dates stand! it's July!
- Cahn's judgement will be TODAY 1400 EST
- Revealing Grant Dalton interview on BYM (yes,
the enemy camp!)
- It's all true.... read Cory E. Friedman @ scuttlebutt
- AP reporting TNZ are suing Alinghi & SNG
- story + Magnus had
it 1st!
- More on the proposed ACC races at farevela
- Rounds @ Cowes, Kiel, Trieste/Napoli, Valencia?
- UITG, Origin, ShoSho, Victory involved
- Maybe Mazcalzone too
- Sorry folks, lake cats are not what this site
is about. I won't get involved. Word is there may be some ACC
(remember them) racing this year.
- Ernesto to sell Alinghi? - Rule69 -
I know it's Magnus but we've heard it from other sources for
a while...
- Spithill helming BMWO X40 - pics @ valenciasailing
- BMWO X40 cat in VLC - valenciasailing
- Grant Simmer interview @ valenciasailing
- Slam Dunk from GGYC? - judge
for yourself
- Cory
E. Friedman part 15 scuttlebutt
- New Challenge from Team French Spirit website
- Team Germany shut up shop - all sailors dismissed
inc. Jochen Schuemann focus.de
- Lots of keeled multihull pics & all of
the new docs @ valenciasailing
- GGYC's letter to JUstice Cahn - worth a read
- here
- John Rousmaniere
on the Jan 23rd hearing - scuttlebutt
- Cory E. Friedman on what happened
in court on the 23rd - Perpetual
Cup part
14
- Enter the White Knight!
- Royal Thames Yacht Club
with TeamOrigin issue DoG Challenge for 2011 in AC90s - VS
- Grant Simmer's view in The
Australian
- FWIW - we are apalled by the way previously
respected sailing people are feeding the press half truths
and spin, what is to be gained by this except destroyed reputations?
- ...and why state an incorrect sequence
of known events? It might make the story better - but it
makes it untrue. If some of it is untrue why should any
of it be believed?
- Alinghi sailing their X40s @ VLC - pics and
video @ alinghi.com
- If you read nothing else - see Mark Chisnell's
summing up here
- Alinghi's take on the day - here
- Cahn expected to sign GGYC's order on Jan 23
- DoG match on for October - GGYC
- More Alinghi "party line" from Rolf
Vrolijk - Alinghi
- FWIW we say: When will someone on the Alinghi side say
-
"It doesn't matter what BMWO challenge with, we will
be building the fastest yacht we can. We don't have to match
them - just beat them. Remember 1988"
- Alinghi's training X40 cats arrive in VLC -pics
@ VS (Basilica
& a new? one) - good timing!
- Judge Cahn sits today
- Negotiations "wishful thinking" BYM (which
is pretty close to Alinghi)
- Magnus thinks
this is Compromise Weekend (it wasn't)
- Valencia F1 track construction and details
- ACM out - sailworld
- Many think the piece really was a joke (and
is a further sign of reconciliation being close)
- Further thoughts, and representations from affected parties,
lead me to say this was, if a joke, in poor taste to those
out of work, otherwise just sad...
- FWIW- our view: See the comment below about
credibility. Schnack is coming perilously close to losing his
- Schnackenberg's barge - he can't be serious! Alinghi
- Compromise is in the air... or is Magnus just
flying a kite?
- Clear analysis from Mark
Chisnell
- "...why do the semantics of the challenger’s
boat certificate matter? I suspect they don't, and I also
suspect that many at Alinghi know this..."
- "...a catamaran challenge is going to be well worth
watching. Not for very long, mind you"
- "Perpetual Cup" Part 12 read Cory
E. Friedman @ scuttlebutt
- "Credibility is like virginity. It is hard
to regain"
- SA & others saying Alinghi has bought X40
cat Basilica
Racing. Is looking for another X40 & may do the
iShares curcuit this year, BMWO too?
- Get up to speed - this is
X40
- Hey, beginning to get excited about the DoG cat match!
- Need to catch up? - competent summing up by Freep's Eric Sharp
here
- GGYC submissions in response to re-argue - here &
here
- "SNG's motion is too little,
too late - And much too inaccurate"
- "The reason...that SNG’s original counsel
demurred on its new counsel’s untimely new argument
is easy to discern: the new theories are all wrong."
- AS you were! hearing is still on 14th - VS
- NYSC to hear re-argue case on January 4th -
VS
- GGYC commit to multihull challenge in 2008 followed by conventional
regatta in 2011 - here
- FWIW - our view. We have always
tried to be even handed, report the quotes & give the links.
That's what we are for. However, we think this move will reflect
very badly on Alinghi and they will lose any respect they have
in the sailing community. Legal battles are one thing, blatant
delaying and technical loophole finding are something quite different.
- Amateur lawyers read here to
see Judge Cahn didn't argue with CNEV's Regatta date but with
their competence. And here to
read the actual Challenge document. It does say "keel yacht"
at the top but gives "boards down" measurement. The
latter seems to clarify centreboard(s) are specified and thus
multihulls. (the last judgement hung on one word "having" this
could hang on one letter "s")
- No Xmas holiday Tom? GGYC response here
- "desperate measure by Alinghi’s
new lawyers"
- SNG vice commodore Fred Meyer's
affidavit
- "...the yachting community considers that
a keel yacht is not a muli-hull yacht"
- Alinghi press for retrial - ACM
- "New York courts should not interfere with
the complex rules associated with organizing and administering
the America's Cup"
- "CNEV rejected as Challenger of Record because
of the date of the holding of their annual regatta"
- Those should please the Judge, and...
- "GGYC describes a keel yacht, which is by definition
a mono-hull"
- ETNZ "wound down" Grant
Dalton - but expecting AC(33 or 34) in 2009
- UITG aim for 2011
- focus.de (but
want Acts in 08 & 09 - Kiel and England suggested)
- For those who keep saying the F1 race in VLC
won't interfere with the DoG race a reminder of the track
plan - here -
BTW this will be an annual event
- TeamOrigin "...stand the team down from full
operational mode,” website
- Desafío Español in shutdown mode VS
- "Alinghi is telling the press that they
ARE NOT going to appeal the judgment, but Alinghi’s lawyers
say they ARE
going to appeal. Okay, I think that’s clear now" Curmudgeon’s
Comment- 2497
- Just for the record here is
the Deed of Gift (from ACM website) - make up your own mind...
- CNEV's letter to
Judge Cahn
- GGYC's letter to
Judge Cahn
- SNG's letter to
Judge Cahn
- Alinghi's new lawyers have said they will
be appealing - Corey
Friedman Dec 16th
- Alinghi will not appeal - Alinghi spokesperson,
Saturday 15th AFP
- Loick Peyron joins Alinghi? - rumours - & see rule69
- The best quotes of AC33:-
- “We have heard Ernesto’s
vision, but what we really need is his decision,” Larry Ellison
- "The Deed of Gift doesn't outlaw poodles, merely
demands that they have the proper pedigree." idontwant2know
@ 2003ac.com
- "If this continues overlong we may yet witness the
Wrath of Cahn" justBob @ 2003ac.com
- "With Larry, we will duel with two beautiful
monsters. And whoever spends the most money will win.” Ernesto
Betarelli
- "It is not possible that we will
lose, we have the best lawyers." Ernesto Bertarelli
- "I'd say there's a good chance this can be
resolved before Monday," Tom Ehman (Oct 18th)
- "That phrase is plainly understood to mean
that it is an on-going activity; the activity has taken place
and is continuing. It implies that the organization has had one
or more regattas in the past, and will continue to have them
in the future" Justice Herman Cahn
-
- Much detail in Sail
World article - flawed
though as they don't realise that the F1 track passes between
the BMWO & Alinghi bases and the water! BTW the F1 race is
August 24 2008...
- January 14 set for NYSC hearing after parties
fail to agree Settle Orders GGYC - BYM
- Update - Alinghi say they have not yet received
the Court Order (?) - VS
- Alinghi about to launch appeal @ NYSC? - el
mundo via VS (and
change legal team)
- "With Larry, we will duel with two beautiful
monsters. And whoever spends the most money will win.” EB
in Le Temps @ sailjuice ...very
interesting article BTW
- Magnus reckons
TeamOrigin about to pack it in. Oh, and Desafio to sue Alinghi...
See Andy Rice's views @ his new blog
- GGYC & SNG disagree on date for DoG match
2008 vs 2009 - Cory
Friedman
- Ellison to Bertarelli - new letter here via
VS "Ernesto...please give us your answer"
- Third Spanish challenger announced - website
- Nightmare scenario - CNEV, allegedly, has an
appeal ready go in - VS
- Bob Fisher's open letter to Bertarelli - scuttlebutt
- Interesting interview with Alinghi's Grant
Simmers @ BYM
- BTW as people keep asking - Marian Martin is not us - our Marian
is Marian Campbell:-)
- Bertarelli tells paper "2009 is impossible"
- IHT
- NYYC join discussions - website
- FWIW - our view: Alinghi's vision has a probablility
of over 50% of being adopted. If GGYC dismiss it there will be
a DoG match - outcome 50/50. If GGYC negotiate they could agree
it for AC33. Net result well over 50%...
- Alinghi's answer is:- here "...the
33rd America’s
Cup has been ill-fated and I have a desire to make it right."
- A new Deed of Gift to be agreed with NYYC
- A new format
to be agreed between SNG, GGYC & NYYC
- All teams to start equal (including the Defender)
- Schedule to be published several Cups in advance
- Permanent managment
- Failing that it's the DoG challenge
- GGYC PR Thursday - ggyc “Time
is running out. Our designers and builders need to know what
sort of boat we will be racing in and where,”
- GGYC letter to Alinghi Tuesday- ggyc (That
13 man crew rule explained)
- FWIW - the options :-
- AC33 in 2011
- Only possible if Alinghi appeal otherwise DoG
match must happen before
- AC33 in 2008
(multihull)
- Possible under DoG, location Alinghi's choice
- probably not VLC
- AC34 could not follow in 2009
- AC33 in 2009
(AC90)
- BMWO & Challengers' preference, Alinghi don't
want to practice alone again so may scupper
- AC33 in 2009 (ACC v5)
- Not mentioned by anyone, but surely the really easy option?
- One of the above must apply
- AC34
2011 or later
- Choice of AC33 winner
- BMWO - VLC 2011 (per Coutts initiative)
- Alinghi - VLC 2011? (only promised AC33 in VLC in 2011
so far)
- Others per normal process - Cowes, Kiel, Aukland, highest
bidder, etc. date dependent on infrastructure
- Not the official Alinghi stance on the BMWO
2011 offer - but possibly indicative of their thinking... BYM
- Sorry for the beak in transmission - I'll pick
up the story from the "Challenger Commission" meeting
last night
- Main outcome is BMWO could deliver AC33 in
VLC in AC90s in 2009 (catch that Alinghi?)
- See
Sail world for summary - Pierre's take
to his bed - VS (same
issue as me!)
- Louis Vuitton could come back to sponsor and
independent (non-ACM) Challenger Selection Series
- Alinghi internal meeting tonight
- Desafio Español's view - and plans - here
- A Perpetual Cup for Not So Friendly Competition
Between Lawyers- Part
9 - the final episode?
- Text of the judgement - here
- FWIW - our view: This is BIG, Alinghi have
dumped CNEV and are negotiating with GGYC for a convential regatta
per the current protocol with agreed modfications and to the
existing timescale. Challengers may have to re-register but
we assume the order of entry will just slip down one as BMWO
go to number 1 and COR (They could even let CNEV stay as COR
in a modified Protocol - thus reducing loss
of face & appeasing the Spanish
press!)
- Alinghi - "...we are now looking forward
to discussions with the Golden Gate Yacht Club to keep the America’s
Cup functioning"
- GGYC - "In all scenarios, GGYC would seek ...
to have a Challenger Selection Series with as many challengers
as possible"
- GGYC first preference will be to "...race a
conventional America’s Cup competition in Valencia in 2009"
- Alinghi response - here
- GGYC "Welcome Court Ruling" - GGYC
site
- GGYC HAS WON THE CASE
- Team Origin blames both sides - sailmag
- http://sailmag.com/teamoriginACdelays/
- No ruling yet - check here (yes,
they chose today to redesign their website!)
- So what is going on? 4 new challengers and
a "postponment" that has not been mentioned in 2 ACM
PRs today - Judge Cahn to rule tomorrow... Don't go away
- Two more challengers have filed papers SailWorld
- This is
looking like real news of postponement 16:30 CET 20th
- Ayre has also challenged! - El
Pais & VS
- Sixth challenger is Mascalzone! - website
- All is not lost - Cooler heads prevail - SailWorld
- Sensible stuff from Schnacks @ ACM
- Add another story to the rule69 list; 965 -
Magnus sees no point in pulling punches! (Ken McAlpine &
juror sackings / hirings)
- Origin trying to broker a deal - The
Times
- Sixth challenger has signed(?) - Hordara via
Rule69 -
If true has to be K or Ayre...
- Alinghi expecting cat challenge - Brad on NewstalkZB
via Cheryl -
Alinghi will not appeal if they lose judgement!
- The inside stories from Magnus - rule69 -
check the 8 stories from 957 to
964
- Alinghi's refusal letter has not yet been published.
Will it be bundled with a cancellation notice?
- Settlement turned down by Alinghi - here
- Interesting story @ rule69 -
"Alinghi are trying to back out of 2009"
- GGYC settlement offer - here
- GGYC settlement offer PR
- BMWO offer to drop case & 2 boat testing
- here
- Russell's letter of Nov 13 to SNG - here
- SNG's letter of Nov 13 to GGYC - here
- GGYC's timeline of negotiations - here
- Alinghi's lawyer speaks - here
- Alinghi break off negotiations with GGYC -
here
- Oct 17 lettter from Russell to Brad - here
- Event Regulations here -
much detail - great stuff on F1 Grand Prix (that really is going
to be an EVENT)
- Entry to close on 15
December 2007 (too close for many more entrants we feel)
- "Tom Ehman has told me that he expects
Cahn to rule on the day before Thanksgiving.” SA (that's
Nov 21 for non-USAers)
- Act 2 may be in England! (Portsmouth?) VS
- Competition Regulaions - here

- Full PR from ACM -
main points
- Act 1 June/July 2008 VLC - v5
- Act 2 September 2008 Europe - v5
- Practice races October 2008 - April 2009 - AC90
- (these will be fully organised & publicised)
- Fleet races and RRs
- No v5 boats to sail in VLC after end 2008
- Act 3 April 2009 VLC fleet race
- RR1 & RR2 May 2009 challengers + Alinghi
- Semi-Final May/June 2009 top 6 inc Alinghi if in top 6
- Challenger Sail Off - non top 6 + Alinghi if out
side top 6
- Alinghi to Secondary Series after Semis or Sail Off
- Repecharge 2nd & 3rd from semis
- Winner to CSS final with top from Semis -
- CSS Final - best of 7 late June 2009
- Secondary Series late June- all except CSS finalists
+ Alinghi
- Cup Match - best of 9 starting July 18 2009
- Note Alinghi gets to sail continuously whatever happens
in the RRs & Semis
- Hey Greg - do an Excel of that ;-)
- K-Challenge still aiming @ entry - BYM
- Valenciasailing blogging
live from the ACM press conference
- Tom Schnackenberg explains the new rule - BYM
- Many dimesions were decided by Port Americas
Cup infrastructure!
- Ayre (Palma) Challenge ready to join - have
taken over all(?) Luna Rossa assets - cupineurope (but
not their base - promised to TeamOrigin)
- Kimball gets it right on the ball, as usual
- sail
west
- Spanish Sailing Federation say CNEV
is a "legal
arrangement" created to keep Valencia and Iberdrola happy! VS
- Sport.es
- Also "it's the Spanish law that counts,
not the American one" shows a bit of a misunderstanding of
the situation!
- Farrs take on the AC90 Rule- scuttlebutt
- GGYC response -"prove it's fair" - PR
- OK we're back and you still haven't sorted
ot out! Anyway, we DO have new rule and
a new protocol -
one that carries the CNEV logo for the first time!.
- Displacement = 23,000 kg
- LOA = 90ft + 4.8m sprit
- FWIW - we say: what's with this rule disclosure
issue? That wasn't the problem. It was always going to be agreed
by the participants & published on Oct 31. Why are GGYC saying
"Show us the rule"? Why ask for something they were
going to do anyway? Surely the big issue is Defender participation
in, & organisation
of, the CSS. Has that gone away? Confused... but then I'm no
negotiator - known for it!
-
- ACM say rule will be announced on October
31 - new challengers welcome to be involved - here
- Is this it? Is it all over? Seems so - GGYC
- Seems to say, "Show us the rule and we're in"
- John Rousmaniere's excellent sketch from the
courtroom
scuttlebutt
- Cory Friedman Part
8
- Martin Tasker video report - via VS
- The reactions of each side were similar. -
Kimball
Livingston
BMW Oracle Racing headlined:
GGYC welcomes prospect of speedy court decision
Alinghi headlined:
Alinghi welcomes prompt resolution
- Bob Fisher view from the courtroom - sailworld
- "written decision which is expected in
the coming weeks" Alinghi (2
weeks?)
- Case adjourned
for a few days - VS
- Cory Friedman Part
7
- Alinghi last minute PR -
offer to meet Monday morning
- "Show us the rule and we can get this fixed," Tom
Ehman - IHT
- Brad Butterworth - "I firmly believe that
there is still time left to agree a solution..." Sunday
PM! - IHT
- GGYC say Bertarelli blocked compromise - PR
- Jablonski says Desafio is to blame - AFP -
I suppose that's one way of looking at it!
- CoR has challenged with AC v5 boat measurements!
- sailworld
- AC32 wins "Best trailer/teaser" @
TV awards! - ACM
- Unanswered questions -BMWO's lack of response
@ BYM (but
what do you think of the question?)
- "I'd say there's a good chance this can
be resolved before Monday," Tom Ehman - ITH (this
is Thursday)
- John Rousmaniere on the Deed of Gift - scuttlebutt
- Meanwhile in Valencia from VS
- That "select
a parameter" meeting did happen
- GER91 sailing - more pics & video
from Alinghi
- New PR from Fuxia - announcement
delay due to ACM
- Eolia - new Italian challenge from Palermo
- BYM (surely
can't be 2 from Sicily can there?)
- Paul Cayard to Sports Director @ Desafío
Español - Valenciasailing
- Don't miss Kimball's latest piece - sailwest
- Perfect summing up with links to everything
by Mark
Chisnell (object lesson to all bloggers - how to write
in hyperlinks)
- "Exhibit 2" where all the fuss started
- full text @ sailworld
- Best Bertarelli interview yet, Stuart Streuli
@ sailingworld (Bertarelli
mentions "new J Class" several times, 90 ft LOA is
not a J Class - unless they are aiming for 90 ft LWL.... (most
J boats were 130ish ft overall and 85ish on the waterline see here)
- Challengers to set design parameters - ValenciaSailing BMWO
and Mascalzone to observe design meeting
- "...main stumbling block is the proposed new
rule requiring competitors to build a 90-foot boat whose design
specifications are so far known only to Alinghi" Hodara
- is it? stories @ AFP
- FWIW - we are pretty sure the main stumbling
block really is the organisation of the Challenger Selection
Series by the Defender (not to mention their participation in
same) this is the one that needs addressing.
- Perpetual Cup for Not So Friendly Competition
Between Lawyers by Cory E. Friedman - Part 5 @ scuttlebutt
- ValenciaSailling interveiws
Brad Butterworth
- Kimball Livingston interviews Bertarelli -
sailwest
- New legal documents from GGYC here
- Cory E. Friedman interviews Bertarelli - Scuttlebutt
- Not good - "compromise would be giving in to
blackmail" EB
- Interesting Mascalzone interview @ valenciasailing
- Mascalzone step in; "GGYC/Oracle is not
the only team that contest the Protocol..." Amicus
Curiae Brief ("friend of the court")
- BMWO PR "[lets] sort out this protocol
once and for all"
- UITG PR mentions new class as "AC90" is
this official?
- UITG - "The America´s Cup has to
take place in the new class rules in Valencia in 2009" - PR
- Check out Kimball
Livingston's view
- "Ernesto Bertarelli and Ed
Baird are paying visits in New York City and San Francisco
this week"
- Matt's report has a couple of other little
exclusives as well...
- Delaying AC33 not an option says Matt Sheahan @ Yaching
World
- Support from Desafío Español PR
- Reaction to date change threat from Oracle & Mascalzone
- IHT
- ACM to reassess date of AC33 - ACM
- "Hi Ernesto, it's Larry..." principals
in telephone discussions Thursday - Telegraph
- New - FAQs from GGYC - here (CNEV
legality not a question?)
- K-Challenge, "We are ready..." but
need sponsor by end of October 1&1 (note
it is K- not Areva-Challenge)
- News of the Australian challenge was expected on
Sept 26th - it didn't happen
- Gary Jobson's view - freep.com
- Bob Fisher's view - Sail-World
- Terry Hutchinson quits TNZ "failing to
agree on terms and conditions" NZH
- More detail of Fuxia Challenge - ac.afterguard
- New graphic & quote - here
- AUDI's angle - website
- "...the changes are largely cosmetic and do
not address the central issues," Tom Ehman NZH
- "SNG and Alinghi announce Protocol
amendment and make a final appeal to BMW Oracle Racing" read PR
- New documents submitted to NYSC by SNG
- BIG news from Team Germany
- AUDI is a main sponsor alongside United Internet
- Jochen Schümann confirmed
- Jason Ker to head design team
- SUI91 purchased
- GER101 will not be built
- Porsche Consulting to be "management and technology
partner"
- Read Ben Ainslie's "Captains Log" TheTimes
- Jochen Schümann to sign with Team
Germany
- TeamOrigin launch - main points:-
- Charles Dunstone joins as
partner in financing the project
- Members of Dunstone's crew have joined Origin
- Design office headed up by Juan Kouyoumdjian with Andy
Claughton
- Skipper is Ben Ainslie, tactician Iain Percy
- Marcus Hutchinson joins from ACM on PR (PR is news? - this
is!)
- Full team here
- Boat pics here
- First design consultation meeting for new Rule
takes place - decisions secret for now -ACM
- Daily
Telgraph reckon Ben Ainslie will helm
TeamOrigin (we'll know on Friday)
- "It's not yacht racing as we know it, but it's
not dull either, is it?" - www.markchisnell.com (a
man after my own heart!)
- A Perpetual Cup for Not So Friendly Competition
Between Lawyers – Part
3
- Both sides win first court hearing:-
- "We are very pleased with this decision, as
we are keen to see this issue properly resolved with a minimum
of further delay," said Tom Ehman - AFP
- "SNG is pleased to announce that the Judge
did not grant the GGYC application
for an injunction" PR
- Here's the message:- "The Panel therefore determines
it has jurisdiction to rule on its own jurisdiction." that
will be one of the quotes of AC33!
- Full document (86pp) is here
- Hey, a sailing story! Farr to replace Reichel
/ Pugh @ Desafio Espanol (pretty sure BMWO didn't want them)
- Oracle Racing reaction : "If the NY court rules
that the
CNEV challenge is invalid under the requirements of the
Deed of
Gift, then the Protocol is void and the arbitration panel formed
by the
Protocol is also void." scuttlebutt
- Arbitration Panel PR
text is changed to clarify amendements
(they are changes to the way the Arbitration Panel is
administered)
- More surprise - "Alinghi delighted with
the decision of the Arbitration Panel" PR
- Surprise - ACM Arbitration Panel confirms validity
of CNEV challenge - ACM (so
much for the RTYC alternative)
- But look @ this "...the Panel believes
that SNG and CNEV should consider amending the Protocol in respect
of some of its provisions..."
- Shosholoza's position - Captain Salvatore Sarno
here
- ACM appoint Tom Schnackenberg as the class
rule and competition regulations consultant - ACM
- "It is not possible that we will lose, we
have the best lawyers." - Bertarelli in Forbes
- And this: - "Mr. Larry Ellison ... is buying
all the yachtsmen."
- FWIW:- our take - This,
after good vibes from Ross & Butterworth, has the sound of
a shot to the foot.
- A Perpetual Cup for Not So Friendly Competition
Between Lawyers – Part 1 - Cory E. Friedman @ Scuttlebutt Part
2 here
- Read Peter Rusch's take in YBW
- "We would dearly like them (ORACLE) to drop
their actions and rejoin the America's Cup community as a competitor
... and help write the rules of the next America's Cup," Hamish
Ross @ Herald
Tribune
- More from the press conference @ AFP
- Alinghi's position - new PR
- Team Germany have officially been accepted ACM
- TeamOrigin explains why they challenged early
& where they stand on the protocol - website
- BTW TeamOrigin team members to be announced
14th Sept. website
- Mascalzone's helpful message earns cold shoulder
' Farr Worlds - Stuart
Alexander and Magnus
Wheatley
- RNZYC response to Ehman's "hearsay" & the Protocol
in general - BYM
- FWIW - I don't buy this alleged scheme that
SNG plan to resign and pass the Cup back to TNZ who then accept
SNG as CoR. Tom says he "heard" of it - seems a bit
flimsy for a legal disposition...
- "German Team ... have submitted their entry
and who will formally be accepted in the next
days.” Hodara @ Scuttlebut
- Nice precis of Ehman's affidavit @ BYM
- If you like legal-ese you'll love these - fascinating
submissions by GGYC to NYSC
- FWIW - our take: There is seriously expensive
legal work going on here - if the arbitration doesnt do a quick
fix the case is going to take a lonnng tme
- Court action timeline @ ACM
- Same page says Arbitration Panel will judge
on CoR validity
- Royal Tames YC is involved, as potential replacement
CoR?
- FWIW - our guess: AP judge against CNEV, RTYC
take over, protocol rewritten, Challenger Commission established,
GGYC withdraw cat challenge & action :-) (didn't happen!)
- Interesting interviews from
- Mark
Chisnell's comments & observations - on the mark as usual blog
- Michel
Hodara interview sheds some light @ BYM
- Manolo Ruiz de Elvira (Alinghi designer)
signs for ORACLE VS
- So has James Spithill & some ex LR crew
- John Kostecki as well?
- Text of ACM Response
to official filing of Legal Proceedings - here
- Golden
Gate PR - cupinfo
- Alinghi's
view web
site
- Comment from
- Real names connected to Fuxia Challenge - Claire
Leroy & Alessandra
Sensini much Italian press coverage eg -
more details to follow
- Jochen
Schümann leaves Alinghi - to UITG or ORACLE? sport1.de
- Just about perfect summing up of the legal
situation captain7250
via Scuttlebutt
- VS reporting
rumour of Dean Barker's move to ORACLE (we've heard nothing here
- TVNZ say he's signed to TNZ - he
has isgned a Letter Of Intent with TNZ)
- Alinghi say they won't change protocol AFP
- More light relief from Fuxia Challenge - here
- Thanks to theafterguard for
drawing attention to this
Notice of Entry - in particular "2.2.(iv) has or will
have an annual regatta on the sea or an arm of the sea." Section
6 is also interesting...
- Team Germany confirm entry - Yahoo (AFP
PR widely published) website
- Victory Challenge endorse the "Onorato
Plan"
- ORACLE will withdraw suit if Alinghi agree
to Onorato's plan - Russell Coutts @ VS
- Sensible suggestions from Mascalzone's Vicenzo
Onorato - VS
- Prada will not challenge for AC33 (does that
mean Luna Rossa out too?) PR
- Palma Yacht Club (Mallorca) to challenge soon
- VS
- Rumours of an Australian challenge to be announced
in September (26th?) cupineurope
- Trapani Yacht Club to challenge - cupineurope masala
- Neither Rolex nor Breitling will replace LV
- see Focus
- Details of possible v6 boat @ BYM
- Valencia F1 Grand Prix is arranged for August
24 2008
- Presumably the (AC) teams will be away @ the 2nd
pre-regatta then
- The track runs right around PCA between some base buildings
and their jetties - pitpass -
a bigger map here
- Construction starts October & finishes in June - just
before pre-regatta 1
- No punches pulled here - GGYC counsel's letter to
Arbitration Panel
- FWIW - our take:
- The protocol was not properly thought through
and still hasn't been...
- There is no ill intent or conspiracy, just
lack of thinking (and/or time)
- The CNEV was a Spanish political expediency
- not a big issue but again, not thought through.
- There are at least 3 flaws which have to be
addressed:-
- The one boat / two boat issue needs to be properly
"what if-ed" (see
'the Two Waka Rule')
- So does Alinghi's particiption in the challenger series,
(what about the teams Alinghi knock out in the quarter
finals, what about the assymetry when they pull out?)
- The issue of refusing a challenge is OK, at
fault is not making it clear who makes the decision
(it surely can't be Alinghi alone)
- There are answers to all of these issues which
should be logical and agreeable to all.
- BTW, the best commentary, as usual, @ Mark
Chisnell & Kimball
Livingston. The worst @ Magnus
Wheatley who simply got it wrong again
- Best straight factual reportage; Matthew Sheahan
@ Yachting
Monthly
- More Valencia fireworks!
- AC33 will be in Valencia
- TNZ has challenged
- New class announced by end of October
- Teams can build 2 new boats (1 nominated as "official")
- Rita Barbera will "welcome [Ellison] with open arms"
- 2 pre-regattas in 2008, 1 in VLC 1 elsehwere
- Big news day (again)
- Ellison's view - Sailingworld
- "goal is to have a reasonable protocol..."
- Discussion with Bertarelli "wasn't productive"
- New 90ft vessels "would be good"
- If Oracle win 2008 catamaran challenge AC34
would be in Valencia in 2009!
- Rusell Coutts has joined Oracle Racing as CEO
& skipper valenciasailing
- Alinghi's response to Oracle bid & suit
- ACM
- Valencia confirmation postponed until end of
August - valenciasailing (wasn't)
- TeamOrigin is the 3rd Challenger - website
- Announcement due from ACM - valenciasailing
- AC33 venue is Valencia
- Date is June / July 2009
- Pre-regattas in VLC in June & July 2008
- Sponsored by Rolex (?)
-
- Golden Gate files complaint to NY Supreme Court
- SNG summoned - download -
GGYC PR here
- Official AC33 website is up - ACM
- Shosholosa challenges for AC33 (which AC33?)
SASailing
- Golden Gate issues another challenge - getting
confused? - download
- 8 challengers request dissolution of AC33 protocol
- sailworld
- GBR75 sailing @ VLC (who was on board?) - valenciasailing TeamOrigin
have a nice historic new home - TheAfterguard
- Louis Vuitton pull out of AC sponsorship, could
return "in another form" IHT
- Download GGYC
challenge for 4th July 2008 in a 90 ft wl multihull called "USA"
- GGYC ready to challenge
Spanish COR legality - SFGate
- Download GGYC's
statement - this amounts to a "10 months Challenge" a
la 1988!
- See CNEV response - BYM
- And Alinghi's answer ;-) details

- Ainslie in talks with Luna Rossa - Stuff
- AC33 Protocol download
- Key points:-
- New AC Class - 90ft LOA - 6.5 mts draft with
lifting keel
- New Rule in 2 months
- Initial regattas will be in v5 ACCs
- No nationality rule
- Challenger Commission replaced by Competitors Commission
(includes Defender)
- "the Match will not be held before 2009 nor after
2011"
- It will be in Europe
- "...discussing extensively the renewal of Valencia as
a venue"
ACM
- Room for 14 team bases @ PAC - ACM
- First Act of AC33? Dubai in Jan/Feb 08 - BOB
- Mariantic "Live" - for the record!
- Wasn't that great? Not too long to the next
one...
- So, Desafio Espanol will be COR if SUI win,
Origin if NZL win?
- FWIW - R7
- Postponment has to be right - too fluky for
a big decider
- FWIW - R6
- Evenly matched boats & "nothing in it"
- That kite messup in R5 is why it's not
3-3
- So SUI only need to win 1 of the next 3 -
who could say they won't do that?
- Royal Thames Yacht Club link with TeamOrigin
- favoured to be COR - PR
- FWIW - R5
- Surprise, NZL was the faster boat, SUI would
have found it difficult to pass
- This time SUI did cover once ahead, so
delta not representative
- FWIW - R4
- Now that's more what we all expected
- Great start from Alinghi - real high speed,
bow down, launch
- A jury to enliven the lay day tomorrow...
- Oh, and we get at least 7 races - probably
more!
- FWIW - R3
- Fluky winds give fluky races
- But hey, it was great to watch!
- >10kts tomorrow? - back in Alinghi territory?
- GER101 sail number allocated - UITG
- GBR75 to debut @ Southampton Boat Show Sept
14 - teamorigin
- FWIW - R2
- @ 10 kts wind the boats are equal
- If equal, the decider will be a tactical or
crewing error - or a bit of brilliance
- Was it complacency on SUI100 that failed to
spot THAT move?
- FWIW - R1 our take:-
- Not enough data yet - certainly no walkover
- Return of real surfing downwind ("lucky waves"?
I think not...)
- First shift WAS important, but not as important
as interviewees aver
- Lighter air will show different issues - whether a different
result - we'll see
- German Sailing Grand Prix cancelled Sport1.de
- Ben Ainslie already heading to Origin? Stuff (replaced
by Spithill? Rule69)
- No San Fran regatta this year - Got
Live
- F1 in Port Americas Cup from 2008 - deal done
- BMW
Blog
- be
a shame if the cup's in NZ!
- Origin could buy TNZ if they don't win - story
- Dickson resigns from BMWO Racing - AC
site
- Origin base (& future AC3n venue?) could
be: Torquay, Felixstowe, Folkestone or Weymouth... Times
- TeamOrigin buys SUI75 - website -
rumoured as COR to Alinghi for AC33- YBW
- Chris Dickson says Oracle will continue @ losing
press conf. - he is contracted just for the AC33 campaign &
will be heading to NZ...
- Here's big news - Sailing
Anarchy gets enthusiastic
about the Cup (but with the great TV coverage & the great
racing who wouldn't?)
- Interesting study on venues for AC33 favours
Dubai - Bloomberg.com
- Teams views on AC33 - CupInEurope (in
Europe, V5, ACM run)
- Very positive reporting on AC & VLC in
todays Times
- F1 story refers to VLC as home of AC33 in 2009
if Alinghi win - see Regatta page
- Shosoloza build new boat for Feb 2008
launch - story -
see Boat page
- Check out the map of the Port America's Cup
Grand Prix curcuit - here (old
background pic - there'll be a new lifting bridge over
the canal)
- GER101? Team Germany have started building
a new boat - VS
- "We'll be back..."
comments from departing teams after RR2 - here
- +39 self desctructing - here
- Fuxia Challenge - you couldn't make it up! -
here
Welcome to the Mariantic site. We started
this site just after the 31st Cup when speculation and conjecture
as to the future of the Cup was rife. We didn't know where it was
going to be or even if anyone was going to turn up.
So we published
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So here we will be recording:-
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